Tony Mills joins Robert to talk about what policymakers and scientific experts got right and wrong throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. They discuss school closures, lockdowns, masks, and vaccines. Tony highlights the loss of trust in experts and how the relationship between science, the media, and politics needs to change.

Tony Mills is the Director of the Center for Technology, Science, and Energy at AEI. His work focuses on science and technology policy and the relationship between scientific expertise and democratic politics.